The Ultimate Fighter 18 Recap: Episode 1 – Fight Your Way Into the TUF House

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ultimate-fighter THUMB32 fighters will fight there way into the house. 8 men and 8 women will make the show following tonight’s two hour episode.

Ronda Rousey comes on and talks about how she used to watch The Ultimate Fighter and just wished they had it for women. Now, she is coaching against Cat Zingano.

“Surprise, surprise!” says Miesha Tate, who enters the training area. Rousey just finds out that Zingano has been replaced by a fighter that she has already beaten. They shake hands. Tate does not tell her directly and leaves that to Dana White to tell Rousey that Zingano is in surgery because she blew her knee out. “She’s really happy,” says Tate sarcastically. Rousey says she thought White was kicking her off the show.

The 32 fighters enter the gym. White says it is a “monumental” season with women allowed in the UFC now. He also warns the male fighters to not let the women’s fights show them up.


Fight Day

Jessamyn Duke talks about modelling not being for her but getting hooked on martial arts. Howarth took Karate and always wanted to fight.
Jessamyn Duke (2-0-1) vs Laura Howarth (3-0)
R1. Duke is bigger and controls the cage. She lands the strikes and a solid knee before Howarth ties her up against the cage. Duke reverses her and puts Howarth’s back against the cage and then tosses her to the mat and lands in her half guard. Howarth quickly rolls Duke to her back and is in Duke’s guard. Duke goes for and arm bar but Howarth rolls out. Howarth gets her back and in a scramble gets in Duke’s guard again. Duke landing strikes while still on top. Duke goes for a triangle from the bottom, locks it in, and gets the tap.
Jessamyn Duke submits Laura Howarth by Triangle in Round 1,

Danny Martinez is shown with his wife and baby. The UK’s David Grant posts pics of his family and talks about them as well. They are our first men’s fight.
Danny Martinez (18-4) vs David Grant (8-1)
R1. Martinez throwing a flurry and then shoots a double. Grant escapes using underhooks. Grant, who is much bigger, landing more strikes and Martinez shoots again. Grant lands a downward elbow on Martinez’ spine and Herb Dean stops the fight and warns Grant. Restart. The two trade and Grant lands punches and a knee. Grant looks good against the normal Flyweight until he is finally taken down by Martinez. In guard, Grant looking for a triangle but bell rings.
Top MMA News scores the round 10-9 Grant

R2. Grant winning on the feet again and drops Martinez. He goes for a Guillotine but gives it up, spins around, and then knees Martinez in the head while he is grounded. Herb Dean takes a point away from Grant. Restart. Grant lands a couple high kicks. Martinez has a hard time with his reach. He shoots but Grant sprawls. He gets an arm to submit Martinez.
David Grant submits Danny Martinez by Arm Bar in Round 2

Jessica Rakoczy talks about being a single mom and doing it to better his son’s life. She played basketball for team Canada and is a boxer. She’s our first Canadian on the show. Revelina Berto talks about her family’s accomplishment and being the offspring of her dad, Dieuseul, who fought in the UFC. Her brother (Edson) fights MMA as well.

Jessica Rakoczy (1-3) vs Revelina Berto (3-1)
R1. Tie up immediately and go to the mat. They just show performance highlights. Tate thought they were going to duke it out. Instead, they were on the ground and Berto had Rakoczy in submission trouble but Rakoczy kept getting out with ground ‘n pound. Rakoczy transitioned from an arm bar to an omoplata to get the submission win.
Jessica Rakoczy submits Revelina Berto by Omoplata

Michael Wooten (6-0) vs Emil Hartsner (3-0)
“Not a great fight,” says Dana White. “I have nothing to say about this fight.” “It sucked.”
Michael Wooten defeats Emil Hartsner by Decision

Peggy Morgan is a college professor and has a three year old. Bethany Marshall trains with her boyfriend who recovered from cancer.

Peggy Morgan (2-0) vs Bethany Marshall (4-1)
R1. Big mismatch here as Morgan is much bigger than Marshall. She gets full mount and is pounding on Marshall. Tate calls her the biggest 135er she has ever seen. Morgan gets the TKO from mount. She will be an early favorite.
Peggy Morgan defeats Bethany Marshall by TKO

Roxane Modafferi is the first of our well known women. She has been in Japan for eight years as an English teacher. She has lost five in a row. She is fighting Canada’s Valerie Letourneau who is shown with her daughter.

Roxane Modafferi (15-10) vs Valerie Letourneau (4-3)
R1. Leg kick by Modafferi and a stiff jab. Modafferi pushes Letourneau against the cage and gets her to the mat. Letourneau on her back and Modafferi works to pass. In a north south position and Modafferi gets Letourneau’s back with two minutes left in the round. She locks on the RNC and Letourneau taps out.
Roxane Modafferi submits Valerie Letourneau by Rear Naked Choke in Round 1

Tim Gorman is going in to hurt people and fuck them up. Lee Sandmeier has had hearing aids all his life and was bullied in school.
Tim Gorman (9-2) Lee Sandmeier (9-0)
R1. The two rush out and Gorman takes Sandmeier down. Side control immediately. Sandmeier rolls to his stomach and gives his back up. Gorman pounding on him with the full mount. Sandmeier rolls to back and gives up back again. He can’t escape and the ref stops him.
Tim Gorman defeats Lee Sandmeier by TKO in Round 1

Raquel Pennington is shown with her mom. She started boxing and then MMA. Tonya Evinger started wrestling and then went into MMA. Tate says Evinger has too much drama in her life.
Raquel Pennington (3-3) vs Tonya Evinger (11-6)
Highlights of the fight are show. Lots of strikes by Evinger. Tate says Evinger lacks heart. Pennington has a better gas tank. Pennington gets the Guillotine in the second round.
Raquel Pennington submits Tonya Evinger by Guillotine in Round 2

Chris Beal had chemo to get rid of cancer in his leg. Came back after 18 months. Sirwan Kakai (9-1) moved from Sweden to USA and wants to become the UFC champ.

Chris Beal (7-0) vs Sirwan Kakai (9-1)
Highlights show. “Beal looked awesome,” says White. Rousey says he was a “confident striker.” He dealt with submission trouble. Beal had some nice elbow strikes.
Chris Beal defeats Sirwan Kakai by Decision

Canada’s Josh Hill is up next “Grappling is different than fighting,” says Dana White when he sees Hill’s grappling record. Patrick Holohan (9-0-1) grew up in Dublin, Ireland projects.
Josh Hill (9-0) vs Patrick Holohan (9-0-1)
Hill came out and out-wrestled Patrick in every way. “Josh Hill tries to wrestle-fuck you for two rounds,” says White. “He did the lay ‘n pray and played it safe,” said Tate. “I want to see him develop his skill set.” Whatever they say, Hill has a key to the TUF House!
Josh Hill defeats Patrick Holohan by Decision

Colleen Schneider has a Physics degrees from UC-Berkley. Shayna Baszler says she is ranked higher than some of the girls in the UFC. Great line from Bazler: “It is easy to be hungry when the feast is at the table now. I was hungry when all we were being fed was crumbs.” Schneider says Baszler was her pick to win it all. Baszler is offended that people think that Schneider even deserves to be in the ring with her.

Colleen Schneider (4-4) vs Shayna Baszler (15-8)
R1.Kicks start things off. Baszler ties her up against the cage and they reverse positions a few times before Schneider is on the ground. Baszler gets her back and lands some strikes. Schneider rolls out and they are on their feet against the cage. Baszler takes her down again and lands some hard rights. Baszler goes for an arm and Schneider taps out.
Shayna Baszler submits Colleen Schneider by Arm Bar in Round 1
Rousey calls Baszler’s ground n pound ‘great’ and says she did an amazing job.

Louis Fisette from Canada is up next. His dad, Mark, says that his son doesn’t pay rent and has a messy room. “I fight to beat somebody up and cash some cheques.” He takes on Chris Holdsworth who is a son of a cancer survivor. His brother also was killed in a gang when he was young. Urijah Faber is cageside to cheer him on.

Louis Fisette (6-1) vs Chris Holdsworth (4-0)
R1. Fisette comes out swinging and the two tie up. Fisette lands some lefts and takes Holdsworth down. Fisette lands some rights but is unable to pass. Holdsworth goes for an arm bar but Fisette gets out. Holdsworth gets a triangle and lands elbows. Holdsworth pulls on Fisette’s head but no tap. Fisette escapes and lands the gnp. He stacks Holdsworth against the cage and drops some bombs. Holdsworth gets Fisette on his back and gets to full mount. Holdsworth gets the arm triangle and taps Fisette out. White says Fisette was “tough” too.
Chris Holdsworth submits Louis Fisette by arm triangle in Round 1.
Tate and White would have liked to see both of them enter the house.

Gina Mazany started fighting because her brother Dave fought. Julianna Pena has always wanted to be a fighter.
Julianna Pena (4-2) vs Gina Mazany (3-0)
Highlights shown. Rousey says Pena is ‘very aggressive’. White says Julianna ‘dominated that entire fight.” “She comes in to finish you and inflict damage,” says White. White says they could be 10-7 rounds.
Julianna Pena defeats Gina Mazany by Decision

Matt Munsey (4-1) is a gator wrestling, tree cimbing country boy. Anthony Gutierrez (4-0) wants to use this opportunity to make something of his life.
Anthony Gutierrez (4-0) vs Matt Munsey (4-1)
Highlights. “Pretty uneventful,” says Tate of the fight.
Anthony Gutierrez defeats Matt Munsey by Decision

Tara Larosa (21-3) never thought she would ever get the opportunity to get into TUF. She fights Canada’s Sarah Moras who says Tara was ranked number one when she started training.
Tara Larosa (21-3) vs Sarah Moras (3-1)
R1. Stiff jab by Larosa right away so Moras took her down. Moras almost submitted Larosa a few times.
Sarah Moras defeats Tara Larosa by Decision
An emotional Moras says, “I want to win every fight in the house, I want to fight in the finale, I want to win it and I want to take Ronda out.”

Rafael de Freitas says winning the fight would be life changing for him and his family. Cody Bollinger is with his daughter and family and is motivated to get to the next level.
Rafael de Freitas (6-0-1) vs Cody Bollinger (14-3)
R1. The two exchange strikes with de Freitas landing some leg kicks. Bollinger takes him down. He picks up Freitas and drops him down and the two rise to their feet. More leg kicks from Freitas who jumps up for a guillotine. Bollinger escapes and drops some lefts on Freitas. Bollinger picks him up and slams him hard but cannot get out of a triangle. Close round from what was shown.

R2. Body kick by Bollinger who looks fresher while Freitas looks tired. Bollinger with solid knees and teeing up on Freitas. Freitas is exhausted. Freitas finally crumples to the cage and its over.
Cody Bollinger defeats Rafael de Freitas by TKO in Round 2

Now Rousey and Tate have to pick their fighters. Rousey takes first fight and Tate gets the first pick.

Advanced to the House
Women
Jessamyn Duke (#4, Rousey)
Jessica Rakoczy (#8, Rousey)
Peggy Morgan (#6, Rousey)
Roxane Modafferi (#7, Tate)
Raquel Pennington (#5, Tate)
Shayna Baszler (#2, Rousey)
Julianna Pena (#1, Tate)
Sarah Moras (#3, Tate)

Men
David Grant (#4, Rousey)
Michael Wooten (#8, Rousey)
Chris Beal (#2, Rousey)
Tim Gorman (#7, Tate)
Josh Hill (#5, Tate)
Chris Holdsworth (#3, Tate)
Anthony Gutierrez (#6, Rousey)
Cody Bollinger (#1, Tate)

First fight: Rousey picks the two #1s to fight. Julianna Pena vs Shayna Baszler

Update from UFC Press Release:

Premiere episode fight match-ups and results:

 

WINNER LOSER RESULT
Jessamyn DukeRichmond, Ky Laura HowarthHove, East Essex, England Submission via triangle choke3:50 of the 1st round
Cody BollingerRancho Cucamonga, Calif. Rafael FreitasAlbuquerque, N.M. TKO1:54 of the 2nd round
Jessica RakoczyLas Vegas, Nev. Revelina BertoWinter Haven, Fla. Submission via arm bar2:32 of the 2nd round
Chris BealSomis, Calif. Sirwan KakaiCoconut Creek, Fla. Unanimous DecisionSudden Victory round
Julianna PenaSpokane, Wash. Gina MazanySeattle, Ak Unanimous Decision
Michael WoottenLiverpool, Merceyside, England Emil HartsnerLuberod, Skane, Sweden Unanimous DecisionSudden Victory round
Peggy MorganNashua, N.H. Bethany MarshallNewport News, Va TKO2:58 of the 1st round
Joshua HillBinbrook, Ontario, Canada Patrick HolohanTagllaht, Dublin, Ireland Majority Decision
Colleen SchneiderLas Vegas, Nev. Shayna BaszlerSioux Fall, S.D. Submission via arm bar4:24 of the 1st round
Louis FisetteWinnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Chris HoldsworthWoodland Hills, Calif. Submission via triangle choke4:09 of the 1st round
Raquel PenningtonColorado Springs, Colo. Tonya EvingerLake St. Louis, Mo. Submission via guillotine choke3:56 of the 2nd round
Tim GormanWest Des Moines, Iowa Lee SandmeierKnoxville, Iowa TKO4:46 of the 1st round
Roxanne ModafferiYokohama, JPN Valerie LetourneauLa Prairie, Quebec, Canada Submission via rear naked choke3:36 of the 1st round
Anthony GutierrezLee’s Summit, Mo. Matthew MunseyHollywood, Fla. Unanimous DecisionSudden Victory round
Sarah MorasKelowna, B.C., Canada Tara LaRosaAlbuquerque, N.M. Unanimous Decision
David GrantBishop Auckland, Durham, England Daniel MartinezSan Diego, Calif. Submission via arm bar2:02 of the 2nd round

 

Fighters will once again be vying for season bonus’. Bonus’ of $5,000 will be given to fighters victorious by stoppage or submission. Another $25,000 will be given for best fight of the season, best submission of the season and best knockout of the season.

39 Responses to “ The Ultimate Fighter 18 Recap: Episode 1 – Fight Your Way Into the TUF House ”

  1. JAMES says:

    lol dana white, josh hill wrestle f*cked him,
    rhonda, he can’t be a great grappler if he only got one sub on record.

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  2. Marv says:

    Hahaha at least the girls made us proud

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  3. Fight Fan says:

    Fisette is still suspended by the NSAC; meaning good possibility he’ll end up on the show is what I’m thinking.

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  4. Lolol says:

    @marv. Don’t hate on the Canadians. Maybe you should try out next season and see if you can make it farther than josh.

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  5. Marv says:

    He’s a good fighter, but boring as fuck and I think the president of the UFC agrees haha. Sarah moras looked unreal!

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  6. Robin Black says:

    A “wrestlef#ck” win is a win.

    This is not WWE, its a competition.

    You need to win, not do frog splashes.

    This whole “be ‘exciting'” concept was created by Dana White, a genius promoter, to make competitors fight stupid so that an uneducated audience can understand it.

    Can you imagine Green Bay Packers fans complaining that their team won 3-0 and played a stifling defensive game and a 3 yard run game to get a “boring” win?

    Can you imagine soccer fans complaining after their team’s 1-0 win where they stifled the other team’s offense?

    God this whole “exciting vs ‘boring”” thing is f^cking nonsense.

    Is a sport, a competition. Winning and not taking brain damage is the goal.

    Huge congratulations Josh!

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  7. Karl says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  8. Rino Belcastro says:

    Keep winning fights Josh – the show is created as a “win and in” and that’s all that matters for now. Don’t change it till its broken and this most likely will be during a fight. We keep questioning your game without an answer. At 10-0 I’m sure you have continued to evolve! Rino

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  9. CM says:

    I don’t think there is any doubt Louis gets into the house. The suspension is a huge give away, but there are other things as well:

    They show both coaches & Dana saying it would have been good to see Louis in the house. That could easily have been edited out, instead it’s just a little foreshadowing.

    There’s an article on Sherdog, where Tate mentions how surprised she is about how Louis was portrayed to be very arrogant in the season opener since she found him to be a really nice guy. When would she have had a chance to get to know him if that was all the time he spent on the show?

    Louis has a TUF viewing party set-up at a local bar… would you really do that if your time on the show was limited to about 5 minutes on the 1st show & then you were done?

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  10. These guys have to fight something like 3 times in 6 weeks. More if they have wildcards. Win with as little damage taken as possible should be the strategy. Josh does that well.

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  11. smash says:

    The goal is to get into the house and take the least amount of damage possible.

    If you don’t wanna be “wrestlefucked,” then defend the takedown.

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  12. updated with a table from a UFC press release. Gives official times of every victory as well as bonus money information.

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  13. Josh only won by Majority Decision. One judge gave Holohan a round.

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  14. GNP says:

    Way to go josh,,you got in! Hopefully Louis may get back on the wild card ?? As robin says ! A win is a win , and it is reality tv, some leave it to Dana to create some drama…I still pick josh to win it all …..good luck josh

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  15. Under hooks says:

    Louis is sarcastic all hell. Plus he understands that TUF will push you into the spotlight if you’re entertaining. Don’t take 2 mins of edited content out of context. TUF can edit anything to make people hate you or love you. His team mate Rolly got very little airplay because once he got in the house he shut up and kept to himself. I bet Louis had a heads up on how to stick around because of his antics on film.

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  16. Louis Fisette says:

    Thanks for the support! Hill looked awesome and fought a smart fight! Congrats!

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  17. ScottyB says:

    Rakoczy is Canadian too…went to High School with her in the Hammer!

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  18. therealslowmo says:

    @Karl
    You sound like a total tool so right off the bat we know your opinion is worthless. Louis Fisette was WAY more entertaining in the 5 minutes he was fighting than the majority of the other fights. Not to mention he was dropping bombs and the kid was in ground and pound trouble… and Fisette was at risk of being finished the whole time… when ? That two minutes of awesome triangle choke? Didn’t look to me like Fisette has a problem with his jits, if you knew anything about MMA you’d know ppl get caught from time to time. And to get submitted by the guy with the best bjj in the house ? It happens. MMA is about learning and growing… but I’m sure you “know that”.

    Secondly I don’t recall his saying he never trains. I think what he actually said was he is naturally gifted and wins fights.. which a 6-1 record would suggest. When’s he last time you had a 6 fight win streak ? Likely never.

    Either way Fisette is my favorite fighter! Hometown kid.. I REALLY hope they bring him back. The kid’s hilarious, super talented and SO much potential.

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  19. ScottyB says:

    sorry about repeating what the article already says didn’t read the whole thing first!

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  20. Josh Machan says:

    @ robin

    This is also a business. We are in the business of entertaining people. The NHL changed their rules rules to make the game more entertaining. Fans hated neutral zone traps. I as a fight fan want to see action. If I wanted to watch a battle for positions I would watch judo or wrestling. I never watched the fights so I can’t speculate on Josh’s performance. What I can say is there is no reason guys can’t advance their position and go for the tko.

    My outlook on fighting is the longer you’re in the ring the better the chance of getting caught or a bad decision. I’m not saying I’ll always Finnish fights, but I will never settle for a safe decision either.

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  21. Josh Machan says:

    Keith, you have a great point about 3 fights in 6 Weeks and I think Josh will win the show. The problem with a safe style is when the cuts happen, it’s the noon marketable fighters leaving.

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  22. We have a great first blog from Josh coming out where he explains his mindset. Make sure to check it out. It explains a lot.

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  23. Terry Norris says:

    @Robin, I agree with Machan, since mma is not a main stream sport like basketball, football, hockey, baseball and apple pie the main focus of the sport and if we expect it too have any sense of longevity like the fore mentioned sports has to be based on solid entertainment. for instance why do you think judo is in jepardy of being tossed out of the olympics, the main reason is low attendence which equalls low sponsership and advertieing dollars. Also to realy make it big in this sport there is really only one road and that road leads to mr. dana whites ufc,and if the big man at the top demands you be entertaining than you better damn well be entertaining or else ,hellow john fitch!!!

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  24. Robin Black says:

    Great points guys.

    I personally find beauty in dominance. Defense. Control. Positional mastery. I genuinely and honestly do find these kind of fights to be masterful.

    But I absolutely see your points.

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  25. Robin Black says:

    Approximately half the people who took the time to ‘thumb up or down’ agree with me and half disagree.

    So it’s really evident how divisive this topic is.

    This topic will be debated forever.

    Good times.

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  26. Terry Norris says:

    @Robin, one thing you gotta realize robin ,the vast majority of fans do not fall into your category , your a highly educated mma fan and practitioner who has devoted time, blood sweat and tears into appreciating and learning the finer less subtle aspects of the mma game such as defense, position mastery, control etc. if you correlate it to boxing, every fan wants to watch a Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward war as opposed to a klitchko or Bernard Hopkins snooze fest.

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  27. Robin Black says:

    Great point.

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  28. Louis Fisette says:

    @Karl, if you’re gonna bash me can you spell my name right T least? It’s Fisette not Fissette. Thanks for the criticism.

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  29. andrijapavlic says:

    ” If I was a 185er I would fuck your shit”

    Louis Fisette

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  30. GNP says:

    Wow … Fuck your shit…isn’t there a name for that …

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  31. Under hooks says:

    That’s a real Louis quote lol

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  32. andrijapavlic says:

    it is a real Louis quote, and i heard it for about 8 hours coming back form minnesota, actually it was 10 hrs because I missed the turn off!

    Louis is a funny guy, and he is not spoiled I wish people wouldn’t hate on him. But like anything in life there will always be haters

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  33. Louis Fisette says:

    Thanks Andrija! I’m very sarcastic and am rarely serious. Some people hate it, some people love it. Regardless, that’s me. I can’t change who I am just cuz people don’t like it. I refuse to apologize for who I am.

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  34. Marv says:

    Thank you josh machan. When I made the statement about josh hill I was referring to how he seems content to sit in a guys guard all day when he has the skill and strength to pass and work towards a finish. You bleeding heart point counters have to remember that this is a spectator sport. Robin, I have nothing but respect for you and what you do but u gotta remember man the UFC would be pointless without fans and the fighters would prob be getting paid as much as they make at a kotc show. If all the fights were like that nobody would buy ticket and nobody would spend $60 on a PPV.

    also Louis Fisette, Ill admit I’m not a huge fan of yours but you looked great in your fight. You fought a triangle for a long time and had the kid in trouble. There’s no shame in getting submitted by a bjj black belt. From all the speculation it sounds like you’re gonna be in. Good luck.

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  35. Bdc says:

    Id say its never good if the boss aint happy with what you do. He’ll just cut you. Luckly theres time to change and finish people if he wants to stay for any length of time after the show.

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  36. Robin Black says:

    Lol at bleeding heart point counters. That’s awesome. :)

    Don’t get me wrong. I really enjoy reckless action and offense first fighting. I love knock outs and I love crazy finishes. Love it.

    I just also love tactics and control and strategy and defense and stuff.

    I do recognize that I’m not in the majority.

    I’m open to discussion and debate and stuff and hearing other perspectives.

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  37. Robin Black says:

    I’m not closed minded or blind to opinions. I get that people view fighting differently.

    I just really like “safe” and strategic fights as much as any fight.

    They’re masterful.

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  38. Marv says:

    Fair enough robin. That’s the great thing about this forum. It’s all opinions. If everyone on this site agreed on every thing it would be pretty fuckin boring. I’m glad you realize that opinions are just that though. Some people take these posts so personally (btp) haha. There’s no denying that josh hill is a good fighter but I don’t like his fights and you do. I have no problem with that and im sure you don’t either. With all that being said I think training on tuf might take him out of his comfort zone and we could see a different josh hill

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  39. GNP says:

    After reading Josh Hill,s blog its a wonder the guy could fight at all, talk about stress!!! …Well they all cant be pretty, but a win is a win, …and Marv I normally don’t agree with anything you have to say…this time you make a good point !!!maybe the TUF house will bring out skills hes not using….and your right he does need to come out of his comfort zone…But the other side of the coin is he is 9 and 0 has controlled every fight he has been in and sustained minimal damage….so if its not broke why fix it!!!!!He is still my pick to win the whole thing…so I guess we will see what happens

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