Canadian Rumour Mill – August 27, 2013

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photo: Rob Trudeau

photo: Rob Trudeau

I’d like to start out by giving my condolences to the family of Eric Schmit. The one time Hard Knocks Fighting Championship amateur fighter passed away and my heart goes out to his family and friends.

  • More and more is coming out on AFC and WSOF working together.  Aggression could be announcing their WSOF deal this week.  Here are some details, let’s see if they come true:
    • Aggression Fighting Championship to be renamed World Series of Fighting Canada.
    • Four live TV shows in Canada.
    • An additional 10 taped shows.
    • Chris Horodecki will sign with the new promotion and appear following his PFC fight.
    • Possible WSOF vs AFC card.
    • WSOF is also looking at a partner for a WSOF Brazil.
  • Onetime MFC fighter Sabah Fadai is saying he will be fighting in Seattle on September 14.  Add him to the list of TUF Nations tryoutees!
  • Looks like Tristan Johnson is not fighting Chris Horodecki at Provincial Fighting Championship as I previously mentioned.  Word on the street is that former UFCer Jason Dent will try to take out the Polish Hammer.  Also, the “Haggis Basher” John Fraser will take on Andrew Cseh.  Please remember, this is under the auspices of the Ontario Commission, so consider all matchups tentative until Ken Hayashi bangs his gavel on them.
  •  While we are talking about Mamba MMA fighters like Fadai, let’s hope the Black Mamba himself tries out for the Middleweight competition.  WAR Kultar Gill!
  • In Winnipeg on August 27?  Check out the Joe Doerksen documentary ‘Scheduled Violence’ at Cinematheque.


  • UFC Lightweight Mitch Clarke will be driving for a cure at Kamikaze Punishment’s sponsored hole for the 2013 annual MS society golf tournament on August 28.  The MS Drive Fore A Cure is an unforgettable day on the golf course while raising money to support the fight against MS. The 2013 MS Drive Fore a Cure will  be taking place at the Belvedere Golf & Country Club. This exclusive course will allow us to hold the  best tournament possible and with your help we will be able to reach our 2013  fundraising goal of $160,000!  Enter HERE.
  • Congrats to Will Romero! Alin Halmagean named him Kru! Romero will teach Muay Thai at Claude Patrick‘s gym, Elite Training Centre. 
  • CIS wrestler, Paul Grebinski, will make his pro debut on October 4 with the MFC.  Always love seeing more fighters in the shallow HW division!
  • Speaking of MFC, are they screwing Smealinho Rama around?  First, Rama was promised the MFC 38 main event against a highly ranked Heavyweight – Scott Barrett.  Then Barrett was pulled from the fight, supposedly due to him scheduling another fight six week’s before his MFC title shot.  Then Rama agrees to fight replacement Anthony Hamilton even though he was not the highly ranked opponent he was promised.  Turns out Hamilton fought five weeks before his MFC title shot!  Not only that, MFC took away the main event spot from Smealinho and put it to a vote.  Vote for Rama! 
  • Two Maritime promoters, Ed Hoyt and Stephen Kantor, are looking to scrap after Kantor alleged Hoyt’s company embezzled thousands of dollars from a children’s charity.  Now they just have to settle on who’s promotion gets the fight: Hoyt’s Atlantic Warriors card or Kantor’s Cage Rage card. 
  • Brent Fryia has appealed the decision of his fight with Owen Carr at the last AFC Calgary event due to low blow, but his appeal has fallen on deaf ears and has been ignored by the Calgary Commission. 
  • Aggression will hold a show in Alberta on November 22nd. Look for Owen Carr to appear.

62 Responses to “ Canadian Rumour Mill – August 27, 2013 ”

  1. EPerez says:

    Cseh is real good. Lots of tools. He’ll take out Fraser.

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  2. topcontrol says:

    How does Desroches pull out of a fight due to injury then plan on TUF tryouts the next weekend? Definatly a Labia pull

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  3. G.O says:

    Too bad for Fryia, the low blow prior to the guilotine choke was quite clear….and the dirty tactics continue, Owen “the testicle Hater” Carr

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  4. Robb says:

    We had Ryan “real deal ” Ford last year and he was awesome !! A great guy who did great things for MS and us at Kamikaze, engaged with all golfers and out drove most of them ….thanks Ryan and we are looking forward to have Mitch” danger zone ” Clarke tomorrow to help raise funds for MS …….proving Edmonton fighters are fantastic and are always willing to lend a hand when it comes to raising money for a great cause

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  5. Huh? says:

    Did Desroches sign a contract?

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  6. MikeJ says:

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  7. GNP says:

    hope fraser does well,would really like to see him back at 35 , fraser vs brigham….very interesting fight….classy move on fissette,s part…Hope he did well on the show

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  8. Hawkes says:

    We lost a Wamma team mate recently and it’s a great move on Louis’ part. Also a dollar from every drink the bar sells goes to the cause.

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  9. Louis Fisette says:

    I’m blown away with the support I’ve gotten! I really do appreciate it. Once all the sponsors money come
    In ill be donating $1300 and then like Hawkes said, the bar will be donating $1 per drink! So hoping to raise awareness and some good money!

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  10. Good work Louis!

    What do you think of our updated CFC lineup?

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  11. Louis Fisette says:

    Sick! I knew you guys would have some good ones in the works!

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  12. Was there ever any doubt?

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  13. Bob says:

    Gee…I can’t imagine why someone would pull out of a fight a week before trying out for TUF. I just can’t think of any reason at all….

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  14. Boob says:

    Mr Bob, I do believe the tryouts have been announced for months !! So nope actually I cannot think of any reason someone would agree to a fight then a a week or so later pull out claiming injury but yet then immediately announce he is competing a week after said date he was supposed to fight. (Contract anyone know if he actually signed ? We know he accepted and received contract!) Not to mention lets be serious!!!! Desroches stands no chance making it on TUF with the Canadian roster at 170 that will be there.

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  15. A contract was signed to compete on Sept 13 on CFC 8.

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  16. Boob says:

    Mr Bob I do believe that answers every ones assumption, and it was definatly a Labia tear.

    Out of curiousity what is the penalty or consequence for bailing on a fight once you have a signed contract then participating in another physical activity?

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  17. Nothing.

    If it was to compete in another combat sport then he’d be suspended.

    But trying out for a competition isn’t quite the same.

    I wish Matt all the success in the world, but wished he hadn’t signed a contract to fight Nathan gunn only to change his mind a few weeks later. It’s all good, life rolls on. Excited about the Meerchaert vs Gunn matchup. Both these guys show up to fight!

    Gunner has been top notch to deal with and should get into management when his fighting career is finished.

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  18. Judon't says:

    To contrast that, Dickson is fighting two weeks before the try outs, he ain’t scurred!

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  19. Old School Jake says:

    Don`t put that idea in Gunner`s head Marc-Andre! We`ll start seeing contracts for “bar tabs and busty babes“

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  20. The Spartan says:

    The UFC wants to see you active…They want to see you’re always ready/ want to fight. Take fights, win or at least put on a show…Dickson is a warrior. He will have plenty to show come try outs :)

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  21. caveat emptor says:

    Rama is getting screwed by MFC. Because Rama was paid the show money for his last fight when his opponent pulled out. MFC is saying he still has 2 fights left in his contract, plus his show money will be the same with no progressive increase like stated on his multi-fight contract with them.

    Now because he’s disagreeing and saying he has only one fight left with MFC, they’re trying to screw him out of the main event.

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  22. I'll Say It says:

    Getting paid your show money because you had no fight at fight time does not count as a fight. He should be thankful he got that especially for MFC.

    I believe the MFC is trying to screw him out of a main event spot, but if Rama is really gonna start complaining about his contract he should have thought of it before he signed it. I remember a bunch of people on this site telling him not to. Deal with it you have 2 fights left.

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  23. Robin Black says:

    Yeah I do have to agree.

    If your fight did not happen you have 2 fights left on your contract.

    The fact that he got his show money is a welcome gift but not an indication that he “fought”.

    I hope this next fight comes together for him and he does well. Top notch big man prospect.

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  24. BOOBOO says:

    RAMA NEEDS TO BUY OUT HIS CONTRACT ( KENT DID ) , IF HE CAN AFFORD TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW DAMN WELL PAV IS GONNA ASK A HUGE FUCKING PRICE , THATS EVEN IF HE WOULD EVEN ALLOW IT. HE SUCKERED THE BEST HWT PROSPECT IN THE SPORT AND PROMISED HIM THE FUCKING GLOBE LIKE MOST EVERY TOP GUY HE HAS HAD AND EVENTUALLY STICKS EM IN THE ASS AT THE END . I CANT WAIT FOR THE WORLD SERIES OF FIGHTING AND AFC MERGER SO THAT FUCKING DICKHEAD PAV CAN GET A TASTE OF HIS OWN BULLSHIT . I DONT EXPECT THE MFC TO BE AROUND MUCH LONGER ANYWAY , WORLD SERIES OF FIGHTING CANADA WILL SHUT EM DOWN !!

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  25. vlad says:

    Just out of curiosity, when did Rama complain? And who these no name people talking about his contract with such confidence? I didn’t know that his contract was published.

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  26. Dennis James says:

    Everybody knows and its a well known fact you get in bed with the Pav your gonna get screwed, just ask ford,douglass lima, Westcott, Nathan coy,nick penner,the list goes on and on, I just hope Rama at least gets a kiss before getting royally screwed by the Pav.

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  27. BOOBOO says:

    CMON VLAD , IF U CANT SEE THE BULLSHIT PAV HAS PULLED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH TOP FIGHTERS IN THE MFC YOU ARE BLINDER THEN I AM . JUST ASK ANY OF THE FIGHTERS MENTIONED HOW CROOKED HE IS ( DAVIS AND JIMMO ALSO ). YOU HAVE THE BEST HWT PROSPECT IN MMA RIGHT NOW AND I HAVE FAITH IN YOUR ABILITY TO PROTECT YOUR FIGHTER FROM DIRTBAGS LIKE PAV , AND THIS NO NAME TROLL , AS I AM , HAS THE RIGHT ON THIS FORUM TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS EVEN THOUGH ITS NONE OF MY BEESWAX . YOU HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH RAMA ,JUST DONT LET THIS DICK RUIN IT FOR YOU TWO . HE KNOWS RAMA IS THE NEXT BIG THING IN THE HWT DIVISION AND WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO GET HIS PIECE OF IT . BUY YOUR CONTRACT OUT IF POSSIBLE SO THE BOTH OF YOU CAN MOVE ON TO AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THE WORLD SERIES OF FIGHTING CANADA , BELLATOR OR THE UFC , BECAUSE EVREY BODY THAT KNOWS MMA ,KNOWS YOU BOTH DESERVE BETTER . KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK , YOU HAVE A HELL OF A TALENT IN YOUR STABLE .

    JUST MY 2 CENTS

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  28. 360 Degrees says:

    Maybe Vlad should have had a professional look at all the fine print of a MFC contract. Pav owns Rama and his likeness for at least 2 more fights. A buyout at this point make absolutely no sense and won’t happen

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  29. BOOBOO says:

    A BUYOUT MAKES NO SENSE TO PAV , BUT FOR RAMA HE DESERVES TO BE IN A PROMOTION THAT GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HIM AND A BUYOUT MAKES MORE SENSE THEN PUTTING ON LIPSTICK AND GETTING FUCKED LIKE THE REST OF THE BEST THAT HAS COME THRU THE MFC.

    BUT YOU ARE RIGHT PAV WOULD NEVER LET RAMA BUYOUT , HE AINT STUPID , HE IS GONNA HOLD ON TO RAMA AS LONG AS HE CAN . FUCK I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF HIS OPPONENT ( SURPRISINGLY ) GETS INJURED BEFORE FIGHT TIME JUST TO KEEP HIM IN THE MFC FOR 2 MORE FIGHTS THAT SHOULD OF HAPPENED ALREADY.

    CANT WAIT TO SEE RAMA IN A REAL PROMOTION SO HE CAN CONTROL HIS OWN DESTINY AND NOT LET THIS WANNABE FUCK RUIN IT FOR HIM !

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  30. Old School Jake says:

    Vlad, Rama and us are well aware of what’s in his contract. Obviously I came into managing him after the contract was signed, but at this point, we are solely focused on winning this strap for the trophy case. We do not have concerns with the current contract and will fulfill our end of the agreement as agreed to.

    I know everyone has an opinion on it and I always enjoy reading the insight and feedback but once a contract is signed, it’s signed. We intend in honoring it as we would expect the same from any promoter.

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  31. Old School Jake says:

    Hahahaha shit, spoken like a true agent. Sorry everyone. I could of cut and pasted that right from the Jerry Maguire script. Even I can recognize when I’m selling bullshit.

    But seriously, the contract is signed. It’s honestly not a concern right now. We are focused on the strap and the rest will fall into place.

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  32. vlad says:

    Rama fought 6 times in span of 12 month, 3 of 6 fights were in MFC and it would be 4 if Barnett wouldn’t get injured. So how buying out the contact will be making any sense right now? You can say whatever you want it’s not like I am saying you can’t or shouldn’t BOOBOO. I was talking about people who speaks here with great confidence about contracts they never seen. I doubt those people even know how the contract looks like. As to Pavelich and MFC, MFC built Rama and because of those 3 fights he is #1 Heavyweight in Canada and soon he is gonna be mach more than that. You didn’t even see yet what that kid can do. He finishes everyone so quickly not because they are bad guys , but because he is that good.
    Fighters without promotions are nothing and promotions without fighters as well. From my simple point of view ( and I am very simple man and don’t think anything wrong with that) promotions can’t make money without great fighters and other way around. When you are buying a car don’t you wanna buy a good one and as cheap as possible? It is the oldest story on earth. We all want the same, we want our fighters get paid great money and progress in their careers and we negotiate with promoters to get that. Fighters fight, trainers train, managers manage, promoters put up shows. At least that how it should be. When fighters whine instead of fighting and trainers play politics instead of coaching , and promoters cheat instead of building talent we all have something to talk about instead of watching great fights. Rama never complained and never picked opponents, never whine about what he doesn’t have or could have, Rama fights and finishes everyone who get on his way. So when people come here and tell bullshit about that it offence me as his coach and I got pissed, I think it is appropriate reaction. Don’t worry BOOBOO we are watching out for the kid and I promise you he is not gonna get screwed by anyone. You should see his next fight it’s gonna be something crazy.
    Robin, thank you for the kind words man.
    And thanks TMMA News for watching out for us, we love you guys !

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  33. Shane BTP Mountney says:

    Vlad…well said…let them talk all they want…no matter what you say…the keyboard warriors never change…anyways…Craig will be seeing you guys very soon…;)..cheers my friend!

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  34. Marv says:

    Props vlad, you guys have an unbelievable prospect on your hands!

    Shut………….…up……………Shane…………….

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  35. Obviously says:

    Put $5 in th shameless war dog plug jar BTP!

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  36. Robin Black says:

    Rama lookin great.

    Very excited to see him keep growing and progressing and kicking ass.

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  37. Andy Gfiffin says:

    Unfortunately with the mfc as has been proven time and time again history repeats itself, much to the soon to be dismay and naivety of Mr. Vad, as the shyster notoriosly known as the pav blows sunshine up mr. Vlads prominent keyster, all the while the only victim of this shenanigin is Rama himself.

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  38. Shane BTP Mountney says:

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  40. Old School Jake says:

    Great post Coach Vlad!

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  41. Rama will be on 4 of the past 5 MFC cards and only missed one because his opponent pulled out.

    The MFC has given Rama consistent fights and found him decent opponents in a difficult division.

    4 fights in 14 months and 3 of them on live TV in the US.

    Maybe there is some issue with the main event spot now, but, all in all, Rama’s team has done very well by signing with the MFC.

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  42. Andy Gfiffin says:

    Rama could have the best corner in mma history if the great coach Vlad could convince his brother Vitaly to fly down from Germany and share coaching duties come fight time, but alas this probably only wishful thinking as I believe Vitaly is in training for a David Haye rematch. Lol imagine that both Vladimir and Vitaly in Ramas corner!!!!

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  43. Vlad says:

    Andy, you know about boxing probably as much as I know about golf . Vitaly never fought Haye, you can’t rematch someone you never fought. And by the way my last name is not Klitchko it is Drakula. Imagine me in Rama corner now, I eat fake gfiffins for breakfast :)

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  44. Andy Gfiffin says:

    @vlad, and I thought the Pav was the only bloodsucking leech on team Rama. I guess I was wrong,

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  45. BOOBOO says:

    VLAD – THE MFC DID NOT BUILD RAMA , YOU DID PERIOD ! THEY MAY HAVE SET UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR RAMA BUT YOU SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS BUILDING A SOON TO BE CHAMP AND THAT CREDIT GOES TO YOU SIR . ALL THE MFC HAS DONE FOR YOU GUYS IS MAKE MONEY OFF RAMA LIKE HE HAS EVERYONE ELSE THEN SHIT ON EM . EVERY THING YOU HWT HAS DONE IN THE CAGE HAS BEEN A RESULT OF HARD WORK FROM RAMA AND YOURSELF . WE ALL KNOW HE IS GONNA BE SOMEONE TO WATCH OUT FOR , I JUST HOPE I DONT HAVE TO SEE HIM IN THE MFC AFTER YOUR CONTRACTS UP CAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY OF GREAT PROMOTIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT THAT WOULD LOVE AND TREAT YOUR GUY MUCH BETTER . AT THE END OF MOST CONTRACTS WITH TOP FIGHTERS THE MFC ALWAYS LEAVES A SHIT TASTE THERE THE MOUTH AND HOPEFULLY AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND ARE LOOKING OUT FOR HIS BEST INTEREST , THANK GOD YOU ARE BECAUSE PAV AINT AND I WOULD BET BANK ON IT !!!!

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  46. Andy Gfiffin says:

    I think vlad has been hanging around btp too much, btps demeanor is rubbing off on him. Vlad a.k.a minnie btp. Lol

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  47. Andy Gfiffin says:

    Vlad you should be looking out for the welfare and wll being of your fighter, not your own selfish self gratification, so young man take heed of the sage advice offered and take sound steps in outdistanceng yourselves from the parasite known as the pav and also from the gibberish spewed out by the village idiot and self proclaimed prophet of mma notoriosly known as btp.!!

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  48. Josh Machan says:

    Vlad has done amazing job taking Rama from being a no one to one of the hottest fighters in Canada. Vlad is a smart man and knows what’s at risk when dealing with the mfc.

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  49. Robin Black says:

    I agree with Josh a million percent.

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  50. BOOBOO says:

    I AGREE WITH MOST BUT THE MFC NO WAY IN FUCK MADE RAME WHO HE IS AS A FIGHTER TODAY . THATS BULL SHIT , HT E ONLY THING THE MFC HAS DONE IS CONVINCE US PAV IS GAY ASS HELL AND DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MMA OR HIS FIGHTERS. HE SHOULD TRY OUT A NEW TRANGENDER FIGHT LEAGUE , HE WOULD FIT RIGHT IN . THE SAD THING IS FALLON FOX WOULD BEAT HIS ASS AND EXPOSE HIS CLOSET ISSUES CAUSE IF YOU LOOK LIKE A DUCK , SMELL LIKE A DUCK , QUACK FUCKIN QUACK . LOOK AT YOUR SELF YOU EVEN LOOK , ACT AND DRESS GAY !

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