Top MMA News Canadian Bantamweight Rankings – November 2011

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Sometimes rankings can be hard trying to scour up a fighter to rank 9th or 10th in a thin Canadian division. Other times, a division is just so deep that it is very hard to rank. This is the case with the Canadian Bantamweights.  These Bantamweight rankings have been the hardest rankings ever.

Consider the following:

  • Three fighters dropped into the division and are top 5 material
  • Five fighters have win streaks of five wins or more
  • Former #1 Adrian Wooley and #2 Roland Delorme are now in the bottom half of the Top 10
  • Two top 10 fighters dropped out of the top 10 just to make room for deserving newcomers.
  • How can you find differences to rank Mitch Gagnon, John Fraser, and Josh Hill?
  • #1 and #2 on this year’s list both have claims to KO of the Year.

Enough about Top MMA News’ hardships!  Here we go!  Feel free to bitch about these rankings, these guys could be ranked in a number of ways.

Top 10 Canadian Bantamweights

1. Ivan Menjivar (23-8) – Previous Rank (1) – After a stunning KO over Charlie Valencia, the Pride of El Salvador AND Canada defeated Nick Pace by Unanimous Decision at UFC 133. Menjivar retains his #1 ranking. Next fight: TBD

Nick Denis throws a right (photo by Mike Fischl)

2. Nick Denis (10-2) – Previous Rank (NR) – Denis was dropped from the #1 perch due to his inactivity.  He returns on the heels of a spectacular slam that knocked out Nick Mamalis at WRECK MMA.  Oh yeah, that is the same Nick Mamalis who topped Adrian Wooley earlier this year.  Denis is undefeated at Bantamweight and should be UFC bound in Top MMA News‘ eyes. Next fight: TBD

3. Yves Jabouin (16-7) – Previous Rank (NR) – Jabouin drops to the 135 division and won his first UFC fight in doing so.  Tiger won a split decision over former WRECK MMA champion Ian Loveland at UFC 134 and receives the #3 spot as well.  The Montreal fighter will face the Gazelle in his next fight at UFC Toronto.  Next fight: vs Walel Watson at UFC 140 on December 10.

4. Michel Gagnon (8-1) – Previous Rank (NR) – Like Jabouin, Ringside Featherweight champion Mitch Gagnon debuts on the list after dropping to 135.  Top MMA News gives him the number four spot because he quickly submitted Bo Harris who previously defeated the formerly ranked #2 fighter Adrian Wooley.  Top MMA News realizes that there are very good arguments why John Fraser or Josh Hill should get this spot, but in our eyes, the Sudbury native is most deserving.  Next fight: TBD

5. John Fraser (9-3) – Previous Rank (3) –  Hey Top MMA News!  Haggis Basher also beat a guy, Eric Wilson, who beat a former #2 fighter, Roland Delorme, so why should he not get the #4 spot?  Good question!  The answer is that Adrian Wooley was a previously ranked #1 fighter and has always been higher ranked than Eric Wilson.  As expected, Fraser defeated Chucky Mady in his last fight and will now face a more appropriate level of fighter in Travis Reddinger in December.  Next fight: vs Travis Reddinger at Meltdown in the Valley on December 3

Mitch Gagnon jumps for joy at being ranked #4. (photo by Mike Fischl)

6. Josh Hill (7-0) – Previous Rank (6) – Hey Top MMA News! Josh Hill was #6, is undefeated, and won two fights since the last rankings! Why did he not move up?  Good question!  This one is much harder to answer.  He beat an unbeaten Gracie fighter in Darin Cooley, although Cooley only had a couple days notice for this fight.  He also beat the 5-5 Federico Lopez on short notice.  It was just felt that Gagnon and Fraser inched him out by beating Harris and Eric Wilson.  Top MMA News could have wussed out and ranked these three all at #4 but instead we manned up and did our best.  Regardless of the ranking, Hill is a beast at 135 and, with a perfect record, is probably closer to a UFC shot than Gagnon and Fraser. Next fight: TBD

7. Roland Delorme (6-1) – Previous Rank (4) – It has been Top MMA News policy to not penalize a fighter for inactivity when they are fighting in The Ultimate Fighter.  Despite the policy, Delorme still has to drop three spots to make room for Jabouin, Gagnon, and Denis.  Delorme has made Canada proud by going 1-1 in The Ultimate Fighter 14.  Let’s hope it results in a fight on the TUF Finale!  Next fight: TBD

8. Adrian Wooley (7-3) – Previous Rank (2) – Wooley’s stock plummets after losing two consecutive decisions.  At Score Fighting Series, Wooley lost a close split decision to Nick Mamalis.  Then, Wooley may have rushed back into the cage after his loss as he did not look himself in a loss to Bo Harris at Global Warriors.  Wooley is a beast and is sure to get back on track in the new year.  Next fight: TBD

9. Eric Wilson (5-1) – Previous Rank (5) – An Eric Wilson versus Diego Wilson matchup at Evolution FC was whetting everyone’s appetite before the Grande Prairie event was cancelled.  Wilson, unfortunately, slides down a few spots due to the sudden infusion of talent in the division.  Eric needs to get back in the cage and pick up a win.  Next fight: TBD

10. Eric Perez (7-2) – Previous Rank (8) – Win your sixth fight in a row and drop two spots.  Life is not fair.  Perez outclassed Tony Bibby at CFC 7 for his sixth win in the CFC.  Unfortunately, the addition of the three newcomers dropped Eric down two spots.  Rumours suggest that Perez may fight the one-legged Matt Betzold at Hard Knocks next.  Top MMA News hopes this one does not happen.  Next fight: TBD

Fighters who dropped out of Top 10 – Hardeep Singh (was 7th, inactive), Stephane Pelletier (was 9th), Diego Wilson (was 10th)

Out of the Top 10
Chris Kelades (5-0)
Stephane Pelletier (5-1)
Diego Wilson (5-1)
Clayton Sheen (5-1)
Tyler Davis (6-2)

Not Considered Due to Inactivity:
Hardeep Singh

Previous Bantamweight Rankings:

Canadian Bantamweight Rankings June 2011
Canadian Bantamweight Rankings November 2010
Canadian Bantamweight Rankings June 2010
Canadian Bantamweight Rankings February 2010
Canadian Bantamweight Rankings October 2009

39 Responses to “ Top MMA News Canadian Bantamweight Rankings – November 2011 ”

  1. Bobby Karimi says:

    Nick Denis is the man!

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  2. booboo says:

    Gagnon got shafted , he should b 1 or 2 no ? about it , !!!

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  3. I don’t see any valid argument for Gagnon topping Denis or Menjivar, Booboo. If you have a good argument on why he should be ranked higher, I would love to hear it.

    In fact, one could argue that he should not be ranked at all because his Ringside fight was a 136 catchweight not Bantamweight.

    However, seeing as Gagnon weighed in at 136 against Harris, Top MMA News sees that as fighting at Bantamweight.

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  4. roberto says:

    If Haggis Basher gets past Reddinger he should be number 3. I still think he should be higher than Gagnon though.

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  5. Sean Quinn says:

    Im back early 2012. I expect to be on this list again by mid 2012. And I expect to be at the top of this list by the end of 2012.
    Good stuff.

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  6. hawkes says:

    Sean quinn is better than half that list, but the record isnt there right now… will be though… and delorme deserves to be above Josh Hill. No disrespect to josh but his record is due to careful management and a bit of luck. Delorme and Hill should meet in the ufc. Delorme has been itching to put a beating on that guy!

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  7. Jamie Locke says:

    It’s good to have goals Quinn! Hurry up and get back in there!

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  8. hawkes says:

    Come for a road trip to winnipeg Quinn… come have some fun!

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  9. Sean Quinn says:

    I might just do that Lindsey. Car just got fixed up a bit. It might be highway ready now… :)

    Honestly, i cant wait to fight again. A lot of big changes have been made with me and my recovery is coming along very nicely. Gonna be so awesome to feel someones orbital crack beneath me hand. :)

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  10. smash says:

    I hope your right Hawkes, I hope Hill vs. Delorme does happen soon whether it s in the UFC or not! It should’ve happened in S.F.S. in June but Delorme was on TUF.

    “His record is due to careful management and a bit of luck.” Ya he sure is lucky that he has beaten all these guys, I don t even think Josh Hill trains, I think he’s just lucky. lol

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  11. Hawkes says:

    Smash – I personally know how many times Hill has been offered Delorme as an opponent. I live with Rolly and i’m his kickboxing coach… His management is careful and thats fine… they are doing a great job.

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  12. Graham Weenk says:

    Delorme and hill would be a good match up for sure, makes good sense on the Canadian scene, but in the UFC I’d like to see them beating international competition so they can both have chances to climb the UFC ladder rather than have them fight eachother and have one go up and the other go down.

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  13. Graham Weenk says:

    Can’t wait to see Quinn back in the mix! Always welcome to come on up to train with us here in stoon too buddy!

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  14. Sean Quinn says:

    I wont train with you Graham because Adam Lorenz creeps me out.
    Last time i saw him, i couldnt get a boner for a month…

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  15. Graham Weenk says:

    wow, a full month?? Damn, Tyson Steele is here too tho and I know how dreamy you think he is

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  16. Sean Quinn says:

    True story, Tyson makes my undercarriage steam…

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  17. smash says:

    Hawkes – You say that Josh Hill’s management is careful, and that’s fine, that’s your opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just don’t understand how you say that Josh Hills management is careful when it comes to fighting Roland Delorme.

    For someone in a position so close to Delorme, I would expect you to know a little bit more. For example, you should have known that Josh signed to fight Delorme at the end of 2010 for C.F.C when he was forced to withdraw due to an injury. An injury which he had surgery for. Then they signed to fight for The Score Fighting Series in June of 2011 when Rolly dropped out because of tuf. So I would say that circumstances beyond the fighters control caused them to drop out of fights with eachother on 2 different occasions. That is very different from Josh Hill’s management team being very careful in regards to fighting Delorme.

    I still want to see it happen and I know that Josh and his management team would looooooove that fight.

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  18. Adam Lorenz says:

    I gave you a thumb down Sean, take that.

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  19. hawkes says:

    Smash- the fight was offered two more times than you mentioned if I remember correctly… But your right, the fight never happened for reasons out of anyones hands.

    Quinn- you should come see us or go see Weenk. I don’t think I ever told you Graham, but I have incredible respect for your coaching skills. You are one of the best I’ve seen backstage and in the corner. Sean, you need an mma gym… Your thai coach is awesome… But your not a kickboxer! Come train with an mma gym!

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  20. Graham Weenk says:

    thanks allot Mr. hawkes! You’re coming from a real solid team with great coaching as well, i really appreciate that.

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  21. Score Fighting Series says:

    It’s too bad the Hill-Delorme fight didn’t happen on our June show but it was for a good reason. Congrats to Rollie for representing Canada so well on TUF.

    Assuming they are both healthy and available in 2012 this is a fight The Score Fighting Series would love to reschedule.

    We’ll start working on the posters now.

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  22. Derek LeBlanc says:

    I thought Keledas should have broken in to the top 10 with his win in Montreal but he has to get in if he wins another match in the next few months.

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  23. Derek, Chris Kelades impressed with his win over Waardenburg. However, #10 on this list (Eric Perez) stopped Waardenburg and beat Morvan in the last two years.

    Just making the “out of the top 10” is a huge accomplishment at 135. Kelades needs to do more to crack that Top 10.

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  24. old school says:

    fraser can beat all these guys. 135 is hard to make for a lot of these bigger fighters. some don’t even make it. fraser usually has to take off his big shiny belt just to make the weight.

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  25. EPerez says:

    Good list

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  26. blayd says:

    crazyness

    menjivar, jabouin, fraser, denis, hill, gagnon,wooley,wilson,delorme
    in that order!!!stacked division

    fraser vs denis wreck BW title next year answers that part of the debate!!!!

    gagnon vs pelletier gonna be awesome whenever that happens.
    wooley healthy is possibly still the man to beat tho.
    unfortanetly hill aint beat or fought anybody yet, he can be top dog im sure but yet to prove it.

    wilson beat delorme once i predict it again if ever possible

    Hawkes- alot of confidence in your friend and thats great and we are very fortunate to have him rep canada this season but he wasnt the best 135er to even make TUF this season (wooley and fraser deserved it way more at that point i think and maybe would ahve won)

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  27. booboo says:

    HERE WE GO ! THERE R 6 FIGHTERS ON THIS TOP LIST THAT CAN BEAT EACH OTHER ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT . MY TOP 6 R – JABOUIN ,GAGNON , IVAN, FRASER, HILL THEN DENIS! GREAT WIN FOR DENIS , BUT NOT ENOUGH IN MY BOOK FOR #2 , FRASER NEEDS BETTER COMP.. MABE THE SARNIA FIGHT WITH TRAVIS WILL PROVE LITTLE IF HE LOSES AND AS GAGNON GOES , I DONT THINK ANY 1 ON THIS LIST BUT JABOUIN CAN HANDLE HIS SUB SKILLS ( THATS CAUSE OF HIS LENGTH ) TAPS EVERY 1 OUT MOSTLY 1ST RND SUBS.. AND YA 1 MORE FIGHT FOR HIM AND HE WILL B UFC BOUND , MABE TO FIGHT IVAN AND THAT WILL SETTLE SOME SHIT THERE ! A VALID POINT MABE , MABE NOT BUT , THE FIGHT MATRIX ALSO HAS HIM AS THE #2 FIGHTER IN THIS CLASS AND 36 IN THE WRLD ! AND GOES FOR HILL , HE NEEDS TO FINISH MORE FIGHTS . JUST MY 2 CENTS !!

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  28. steve hill says:

    Alot of talent in this class , seems the list makers have some favorites tho, Denis goes from 2 years off to # 2 with one win ?? , gagnon very strong but tough time making weight and only had 2 fights ?? at that weight, fraser a grinder, And Josh who cant get credit he deserves , and adrain geting older but def still in the mix…would love to see these top 6 guys fight each other and answer alot of questions…and silence alot of doubter,s

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  29. reg hartt says:

    Hill looks like he will be so good as he gets better and better but the fact that he fights mediocre fighters and fights so boring is really holding him back i think. If Adrian Wooley has the fire to take one last run he can beat all of these guys.

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  30. No favorites here. Lets see your top 10, Steve Hill.

    One thing is clear. When a guy like Kelades or Pelletier cannot be ranked and Waardenburg is not even in the Top 15, you know its a stacked division.

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  31. Mike Davis says:

    this division is stacked, great list I agree with it. 2012 is going bring a headache for you guys lol

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  32. steve hill says:

    1..menjivar…2..jabouin…3..fraser…4..hill….5…wooley….6..denis…7..gagnon…8.. delorme…9..e. wilson…10…perez…and yes the division is stacked

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  34. BigBoy says:

    Just to set something straight, gagnon did fight at 136lbs but an hour before the weight-in weighed 135lbs, since he had 1lbs allowance decided to drink 500ml water twice before the weight-in!! Easiest cut ever! :)

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  35. Joaquin says:

    Agree with the rankings.

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  36. doug mac donald says:

    Lets see Gagnon vs Pelletier . why not.?

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  37. Sheryll says:

    This is a good site.

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  38. booboo says:

    WHY DOUG ? THAT FIGHTS A STEP DOWN IN MY BOOK . GAGNONS UNDER CONTRACT WITH RINGSIDE , SO ONCE HIS CONTRACT IS UP HE WILL HAVE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES TO FIGHT BETTER FIGHTERS . PELLETIER IS A FCKN BEAST , BUT MITCH IS A 135 LB MONSTER, WHO I DONT SEE ANY 1 UNDER RINGSIDES ROSTER WHO EVEN CAN GET PASSED HIM IN THE 1ST RND AT 135 !

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  39. Buggo says:

    then he’ll have 2 belts. kinda hard to look past that. no?

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