Carlos Condit vs Josh Koscheck Makes Too Much Sense Not to Happen


Poor Carlos Condit.

Let me just get that out of the way, as most of the MMA community has been patting Condit’s back (figuratively, of course) ever since his title shot was brutally stolen from him.

Ok, so it wasn’t “his” title shot, so I guess it wasn’t “stolen” from him per se. Still, that’s an argument for another day. Right now, no matter what the circumstances, you have to feel for the guy. He reportedly broke into tears upon being told he was getting a title shot.

I wonder how he reacted when the rug was pulled out from under him.

Knowing Condit, he probably spent the first ten minutes getting his ass kicked by grief before roaring back to completely get over it in the final five minutes.

Now, in the wake of the injury plagued, missed press conference fiasco-avalanche that was UFC 137, an unexpected player has emerged onto the scene of the controversy: Josh Koscheck.

To some, Koscheck is the Welterweight division’s version of Ragweed: no matter what you do to him, he seems to keep coming back. Two decisive losses to the reigning champ hasn’t seemed to douse Koscheck’s ambitions, lower his profile as the division’s “bad boy”, or shut his mouth any.

Love him or hate him, the man knows how to market himself in MMA. He’s also a gamer who has no problems fighting on short notice, for good or ill. When GSP fell out of his championship tilt with Condit, Kos offered to step up to the plate on only a weeks notice. We don’t know if Condit turned that fight down, or if it was ever offered to him.

Now Kos has taken to Twitter again, claiming (in so many words) that Condit ducked him by not taking his last-minute offer. Which is almost as ridiculous an accusation as when Diaz claimed GSP “ducked” him by dropping out of the Condit fight with a knee sprain. That’s right, folks: GSP ducked Diaz by dropping out of a fight with someone else. Keep tokin’ Nick.

In addition to his accusation, Kos has thrown the digital, 140 character gauntlet and challenged Condit to a fight while “The Natural Born Killer” is waiting for his title shot.

The reaction to this fight has been interesting, with most fans thinking Condit – and the UFC – should pass this fight up. It’s too risky a fight for Condit, some say, who could lose his (very loosely guaranteed) title shot. And it’s too risky for the UFC, who would lose a “new blood” contender in Condit only to gain in Kos a contender who’s already fought the champion twice – and lost.

Those are solid points. But still, as my Grandfather once said upon having subatomic theory explained to him: Balls.

This is the fight to make, folks. Let me explain why, “pitching” this fight as it were to Kos, Condit, the UFC, and the fans.

Ok, so I don’t have to pitch Kos, as it’s his idea. It’s a marquee fight with lots of potential buzz that would keep him name in the spotlight. For him, this fight is all gravy.

But what about Condit? Does the Team Jackson fighter risk too much by facing a dangerous guy like Kos?

Maybe, but to my the rewards outweigh the potential risks. Condit’s “guaranteed title shot” is at best a phantom, a possibility of a title shot lingers somewhere on the horizon like morning mist. Just ask Jon Fitch what the value of Dana’s word when it comes to “guaranteed title shots” really is.

The truth is that Carlos would have a FAR better chance of getting his title shot if he took this fight and won than if he waited, Rashad Evans-style, in the wings. The UFC brass looks for people who “move the needle” with casual fans, which Condit sadly doesn’t right now. A marquee matchup, with a polarizing figure like Kos, on a big card with lots of trash talking backing it up – well, that sounds like exactly the right fight to get Condit “over” with casual fans.

And hey, if he can’t beat Josh Koscheck, I really don’t like his chances against GSP.

And the UFC? They should make this fight because the hype is there, the opportunity is presenting itself, and the chance exists to keep building buzz in the previously stagnant Welterweight division. Put this fight on the same Super Bowl weekend card as GSP vs. Diaz, bill it as a number one contender’s match, and play up the Kos/Carlos drama. Condit wins, you have a built in challenger for GSP. Kos wins, well, maybe it’s time you finally gave Jon Fitch a call. Or see what Anderson Silva’s schedule is looking like.

And fans? C’mon, do I really have to pitch you guys? Don’t even pretend that Kos vs. Condit would be anything other then an all out war.

13 Responses to “ Carlos Condit vs Josh Koscheck Makes Too Much Sense Not to Happen ”

  1. Kris says:

    Nice piece! I was skeptical until the last 14 lines, and then I bought it. I now wanna see this fight, and now it makes sense to me.

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  2. Robin Black says:

    I so want to see Condit vs Ellenberger :)

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  3. evmister says:

    In my opinion Ellenberger vs Condit makes more sense; not that i wouldnt want to see Condit vs Kos.
    Kos lost a title fight with GSP less than a year ago, and Jake and Carlos are each on a tear, and have yet to challenge the champ. A #1 contender fight between them would make the most sense in my opinion, with Jon Fitch tied up fighting Hendricks at the end of the year.

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  4. What? says:

    Just so it’s known that I am not pure Robin Black hate :)….I 100% agree with his fight choice!! Condit vs Ellenburger for #1 contender is pure awesome

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  5. steve says:

    Really condit deserved a title shot as much as diaz, and I,m a diaz fan , he has beat ellenberger who is a beast..and koscheck is a wild card , not a walk in the park for anyone…hope condit pulls it off

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  6. Robin Black says:

    It’s been over 2 years since Condit beat Ellenberger in a very close split decision. C’mon let’s see it again.

    I think that’s the fight we might see. Koschek tried GSP twice why put him in a position for a 3rd with a win.

    Condit Ellenberger is where its at. Good times. :)

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  7. BigBoi says:

    Condit vs Ellenberger makes no sense since Carlos has already beaten him.

    Sorry but it’s true. If you’re a fighter you want to move forwards not back when you’re this close to a title shot. Since beating Jake, Carlos has stopped Rory, Dan and Stun Gun. While we can discount Hardy’s title shot as a hype game he did dispose of Stun Gun is pretty impressive fashion. With the house cleaning GSP has done in Welterweight you can’t very well say Carlos isn’t deserving.

    Ellenberger’s biggest wins since losing to Carlos have been stopping Pyle and Shields. The Shields win is decidely impressive in that it’s the first time Shields was ever stopped inside the first five minutes.

    Ellenberger was the rightful person to get the title shot in the first place (which was always something that bugged me when he didn’t get asked) which may have happened had he faced Fitch instead of Rocha earlier on.

    That said…. Carlos and Jake need to not fight each other so that when GSP is finished with dismantling Diaz there are two additional viable contenders in the division.

    A fight with Kos would go a long way to show that Carlos can swim in deep water. To be honest the two best wrestlers Condit has faced (Healy and Shields) both beat him. Add to that that Healy is really a LW pretending to be a WW and you have to ask if Carlos is going to be able to handle GSP who is decidely a wrecking machine at WW.

    The Kos fight would show that Condit is game to take any fight offered. It would be high enough profile to balance out the risk/reward question. It would also show that Condit can deal with a wrestling game that will force him to defend take downs and fight off his back.

    Fail at Kos and you’re basically announcing that GSP would have you on a street corner before the night is over.

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  8. evmister says:

    The Condit-Ellenberger fight was a long time ago, as well as they’ve both made leaps and bounds since then. The Shields and Healy fights were also a long time ago, Condits grown since those fights.
    Although I do agree that it is good that there will be 2 viable contenders if they don’t fight, which could amount to 2 very good scraps; i’d rather see the best man of those two fight gsp.

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  9. Robin Black says:

    If Koschek hadn’t started mouthing off about Condit, ya gotta figure Condit vs Ellenberger would have been the fight.

    Smart guy.

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  10. Rob says:

    Koscheck/Condit makes no sense what so ever. Condit wins then it’s gravy for the UFC, but if Koscheck wins it screws the UFC. The juice is not worth the squeeze. They can’t put Koscheck back in with GSP which they would have to do if Koscheck beat Condit.

    Condit/Ellenberger makes sense. Condit/Koscheck makes NO sense.

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  11. steve hill says:

    condit and ellenberger is a good match up , he beat condit up the last time around , But condit has heart…and no quit attitude , koscheck is dangerous for condit if he does what he does best…wrestle…But…Kos cant beat gsp!….condit…maybe !….diaz…definately

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  12. MSP says:

    What about Nick Diaz beating GSP. In that case, a fight between Koscheck/Diaz or Condit/Diaz will be so fun to watch! Condit/Koscheck is a fight that I won’t miss, UFC will take care of what happen after.

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