Edmonton Commits to 1/2 Point Judging System in 2011


Edmonton Combative Sports Commission LogoTop MMA News has learned that the Edmonton Combative Sports Commission (ECSC) will introduce the 10 Point Must with Half Points judging system in September 2011.  In fact, the system could be used as early as the September 16th Aggression MMA card.

“As long as we have all COMMAND-certified judges, then (Edmonton) will go ahead with the half point system this weekend,” said ECSC Executive Director Pat Reid.

At this point, the Executive Director is unsure if he will have four COMMAND-level judges for the September 16th event, however, he maintains, “If we do not have the qualified officials for Aggression, then the first event that we will use the new rules will be the September 30th event (Unified MMA).”

Edmonton, the same commission that utilized DREAM rules in 2009 for an event, volunteered at this year’s Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC) conference to be one of five commissions to test the system. Reid maintains that his officials have been practising using the system during televised MMA broadcasts to ensure there will be no errors.  The system will be used for the remainder of 2011 for all events, which would inlcude October’s Maximum Fighting Championship event.

The idea behind the new scoring system is that it can better qualify the margin of victory of each round. Currently, a fighter who clearly wins a round or just wins a close round is rewarded the same 10-9 score. In the Half Point system, the fighter would be rewarded a 10-9 score for clearly winning and only a 1/2 point (10-9.5) for winning a close round.

The half-point system for MMA was first introduced by long-time official Doc Hamilton after it was used successfully for international kickboxing and non-title boxing events in England. Under the system:

10-10 indicates an even round. (Although seldom warranted)
10-9.5 is a close period. One fighter may have marginally scored a greater number of strikes, or had a takedown, or marginally controlled the grappling, or demonstrated slightly more aggressiveness.
10-9 has a clear winner
10-8.5 is a rounds delivering damage OR domination
10-8 has damage AND domination
10-7 and 10-7.5 are improbable and are so one-side that a ref should stop the fight

Edmonton will not use Hamilton’s proposed ‘Table Judge’. This position records moves throughout the match and would be used to break ties.

Doc Hamilton’s 10 Point Must System with Half Points can be read here.

62 Responses to “ Edmonton Commits to 1/2 Point Judging System in 2011 ”

  1. alandale says:

    Being qualified to be a proper judge of a sport means first and foremost 100% impartiality and good judgement. Good judgement is based on a proper understanding of the sport, however being an active trainer, coach, or corner person, removes all possibility of being 100% impartial. In fact at a certain level, you have to remove yourself from being a fan as well because fans watch based on emotion. Call me naive but almost a dozen years exoerience around all facets of combat sports provides me a bit of insight on what makes a good one from not. It’s been my experience that for the most part, long time coaches and trainers make the worst judges due to heavy biases and the inability to remain 100% impartial due to their associations with fighters, trainers, corners, etc all along the way

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  2. alandale says:

    Tyler, the biggest problem with those who “understand mma” is they themselves cannot reach a proper consensus as to how the sport should be governed, and officiated. The ABC has something like 8 recognized seperate training courses for officials???? That’s 8 different messages being taught. Maybe they should come together and decide on a single standard and then train officials under 1 standard. You might start to see some uniformity.

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  3. BigBoi says:

    Alan, where have I ever said “currently teaching”? I apologize if that was the impression I gave you but when I say “experienced” I’m doing it with the mindset that they have now reduced their envolvement in the sport (as per the major conflict of interest you highlighted in a previous post) and are now in another aspect of involvement.

    You don’t hire a “really big fan” to be a ref in the NHL. Most of these guys have coaching or playing backgrounds and now just ref full time.

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  4. Bobby Karimi says:

    I went to Allendale Jr. High School!

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  5. Justsayin says:

    Likewise on Allendale Jr.High but I’m sure it was way before your time!!

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  6. Bobby Karimi says:

    I went there in mid 90s

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  7. Justsayin says:

    Seventies and I’m not talking late! :)

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  8. Bobby Karimi says:

    LOL, ok you’re right way before my time, :)
    kinda weird actually that we both went there, it was/is a real small school for Edmonton.

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  9. Bobby Karimi says:

    Come back Matt MacAllister… :)

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  10. BigBoi says:

    I think you scared him away Bobby Karate.

    You should try to be nicerer, like me.

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  11. alandale says:

    The issue is there are too many “active” guys in the sport who are trying to walk both sides of the fence

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  12. Tyler Davis says:

    Agreed alandale

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